that's not good for the economy at this point. and i'm really thinking of the home mortgage deduction. >> i think the home mortgage deduction could go. >> entirely? >> beneaneither of the commissi recommend recommended removing it entirely. the deduction which primarily is an advantage for high income people into a credit up to a limit. that would mean that people with much more modest incomes, who now don't itemize their deductions would get the benefit of this credit. it would be hard on high income people with very large houses. but we have just built too many too many large houses, you would have to phase it out. but i think that would be a good solution. >> on the subject of tax reform, i know in simpson-bowles there was a proposal to lower corporate taxes, do you think that is still a possibility if in fact we still move to additional tax reform in 2013? >> i do. i think that broadening the base of the income tax, the corporate income tax is also a good idea. getting rid of a lot of special provisions that riddle the tax and